and just a relentless barrage of terrible events, political events. the economy was not as bad as it is now, but the war was obviously raging and it became clear that we were losing the war, which is what one of the episodes is about. >> and you think we're raging today. >> i feel like there -- i feel like there's a malaise in the united states right now. i do it's -- believe r not. i don't kno a culture can have h the self-esteem, but whatever the principles are that make us feel good about being americans and about where we live and this thing, just -- the simplest thing, this is the greatest country on earth, which is what we were all raised with that produces a blow and there's anxiety and changes afoot. at so many times there was gun control legislation and it went all the way to the end and disappeared like this time and you wonder how did that happen. >> gayle i always think you're going to zig when you san diego. >> welcome to the table, you guys. >> six seasons. how do you keep it relevant do you think? how do you continue to grow your audience?